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Why perlite?
05 Nov 2004
Hi, I checked a lot of questions and
didn't find an answer. I was wondering why would you use perlite when
it contains asbestos and can be harmful if inhaled. Why not use sand
or something else natural like sea sponge bits. Also is it possible to
make your own nutrient solution from scratch? If so, what recipe? To
me it seems that the continuous flow technique would be the most
simple, but I understand the use for a medium for root vegetables.
Thanks. -Tony
Hello
Tony
Good
questions
No
asbestos - that's a different mineral to Perlite - whoever told you
that Perlite is anything but perlite is dreaming.
Perlite
is a rock mined from the ground, heated to sterilise it and make it
pop' and allow the particle to hold water inside the structure of the
particle. No safety issues other than nuscience dust - could make you
cough. No harm if swallowed, no harm if in contact with it. Its
sterilised dirt or rock - not synthetic.
Safe,
natural and non-harmful.
Why
not sand. Well, expanded mediums hold their water away from roots
(inside the perlite particle) releasing moisture to the
roots in contact with moist particles. This means providing more air
space between the particles, better drainage, better moisture holding
without rotting roots, and higher growth rates than non-expanded
mediums.
I
have included another reply for you below to read with the
perlite safety references. Natural media can be used, not
necessarily safe, not sterile (disease/bacteria), may hold water
between particles, not inside the particles, leading to pooling and
rotting roots, may break down and release other nutrients rendering
nutrient solutions difficult to manage.
Making
your own solution is simple. You will not find that a simple solution
gives much performance. When adding components, the solution in
concentrate will get hot, or very cold, and the order you add them
will affect the solubility/availability. I don't have a recipe, but
you might find one in a book. It may be expensive to buy the
components, some packs would last a grower 1000 years, and is quite
expensive.
Continuous
flow I assume you mean channels, as this is the only way I feel you
can run nutrient continuously. Channels can absorb heat. If the
nutrients get above 30 degrees problems will develop as oxygen can no
longer be absorbed. On a scale of easy to difficult, NFT channels are
closest to difficult, and a media system is the easiest. For system
information go to www.hydrocentre.com.au/catalogue
Scott
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cancer
03 Nov 2004
just recently growing hydroponically, generally everything is well,
except for the concern of cancer. I have been feeling rather sunburnt,
also sore red eyes, are wondering what kind of long term effects are
suffered by metalhalides? have got good ventilation, globes are
1000watts x 2. Also have heard that vermiculite and perlite have
cancer/asbestos particles in them. How true is this and how dangerous
are they to us? what precautions can i take? i would appreciate your
knowledge and any other websites i can study. thx
Ok
1.Sunburn
- Metal Halides produce UV. Although they are designed for factory
workers to work under, if you are close to the lamp like a growroom
environment, it is more concentrated and it is possible to get some UV
exposure. If you spend more than 3 hours per day directly under
the light in your growroom, I would believe that it might be a
good idea to shield yourself from the lighting in some way with the
reflector, or turn the light off that you are working under, and leave
another light somewhere else, such as a household fluorescent or
incandescent bulb. I wouldn't consider it a risk compared to say 10%
of the same exposure to sunlight.
2.
Sore eyes - These lights produce a lot of glare, and I recommend eye
protection as you would in sunlight. UV protection sunglasses would be
good.
3.
Perlite - Contains no asbestos. Here is a link to a Typical Material
Data Safety sheet for Perlite - A summary would be that Perlite
is a rock, and its a bit dusty, but no danger to you really,
other than normal dust coughing, eyes irritated but no long term
effect when you wash it out. You'll notice even if swallowed or on the
skin, not real effect. http://www.schundler.com/msdsperl.htm
I
am glad you asked this question. It is a key area that people
misconceive that Hydroponics being manufactured, has any level of
toxicity. I would be concerned with Rockwool, but only large
quantities of it - as it has been cleared of cancer risk as well, but
it makes me itch, so that's the one thing I am worried about.
If
mixing nutrients yourself, some elements that are used are completely
natural, yet never meant for you to come into contact with high levels
of it, such as boric acid. Using gloves is fine, and you only ever use
a very small amount. Natural things can hurt you, like arsenic, lions,
sharks, earthquakes, etc.
The
humorous thing is soil is now packaged with warnings. Customers tell
me they love the smell of soil, yet the soil packaging warns you to
avoid diseases by using a mask. They tell me they like to feel the
dirt in their fingers, yet the packaging warns you to use gloves!
Really,
we need to do what you have asked, assess the risks on a fairly toxic
planet, and try to use only non-toxic products. 75,000
chemicals have been added to our lives since the 1930's that don't
exist in nature and 7% have been tested for safety. That makes me feel
safe. The main foaming agent in toothpaste, soap and shampoo is a
toxic chemical call sodium lauryl sulphate. They use it in Rat poison.
You should research this, and heres a site to start with including the
safety sheet.
Hope
that make you feel good about Hydroponics and as worried as I am about
the world. You can't stop it and get off can you.
Good
luck
Scott
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Evidence of vegetables
absorbing bacteria - organics?
31 Jan 2004
Hi Scott, Have just
discovered your great site, and am beginning to investigate hydroponics
- always thought it was a huge amount of effort, etc, but it seems maybe
not. I've been an organic gardener for years - am really interested in
finding out more about what you've said about vegetables absorbing
bacteria from animal manures - where can I find some facts and details
of research on this ? do you know any sites? Many thanks. Siobhan
http://aem.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/68/1/397
the full content
is at http://aem.asm.org/cgi/content/full/68/1/397
If any other sites
come up I would like to hear about them at scott@hydrocentre.com.au |
General Question
energy saving hydroponics
18 Nov 2003
Dear Sir, I am in grade 8 and I have
always been interested in growing of vegetables etc. I am doing a energy
saving experiment at school and I have selected hydroponics. I need to
build a simple experiment that shows the energy saved. Can you suggest a
basic idea that will appeal to students and parents. Regards Lindsay
Scott
The Advantages of
Hydroponics include Less weeding, bending, digging, machinery used. Less
use of tractors and polluting farm machinery. More efficient use of
water resulting in 80 litres per 1kilo of produce produced in soil and 3
litres of water used per 1 kilo in Hydroponics. Energy saved is fairly
difficult to identify. Physical energy is reduced compared with normal
gardening. Would something along those lines be suitable?
Scott
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General Question
Tropical Hydroponics
26 Oct 2003
We live in Darwin where it is hot and
humid for 4 months of the year. Can we still grow vegetables in this
climate. Do you know of any web sites that specifically discuss
hydroponics in the tropics? I appreciate your assistance. Jill
I know what you mean.
One commercial grower grows commercial lettuce up there under shade cloth.
That's not really done down here except by hobbyists. So I believe that
like Asian and other tropical growers you need to consider your
situation. If above 25 degrees, choose a system that keeps water readily
available. If above 30 degrees, then use some light shade to cool it
down. If there is still heat you can put more shade cloth layers to
protect during hottest times, e.g. maybe the north side during summer,
and also ensure venting of heat, and catching any breezes. The humidity
may provoke mould and fungus if above 60% in a warm climate, so use some
microkill or other beneficial bacterial spray (prefer microkill) or a
fungicide like fongarid to protect the plants. If you want to go
technical and use fans to vent and circulate air, this can be lots more
fun and very productive.
As for websites, I
wish there was. Let me know if you find them, as I am way too busy on
this website and could do with the help answering questions. ~smile~
Scott
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when did hydroponics started in Singapore?
01 Sep 2003
I believe it has been
going for a while. My Parents lived there around 14 years ago and we saw
hydroponics there then. Practical Hydroponics did a story on Singapore I
believe. Try www.hydroponics.com.au
If you need a date you could contact the relevant dept of the government
in Singapore.
Scott |
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what is mannose used for in biological
processes?
This is a link to some of the research
written on Mannose. Hope it helps Scott http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/summary_display.wm?SECTION=MAIN&CRITERIA=mannose
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Is hydroponics or aeroponics better?
05 Jun 2003
is hydro or aero better?why is it
better???i m from singapore here...i really need it for a project asap...plz
Hydroponics is the
group of techniques for growing plants without soil - Aeroponics is one
of those.
As for if its the
best, it depends.
Good points:
- High growth rate
- Fairly low root rot
risk
- easy to use
- Fairly low running
costs
- Small tanks
required
Bad points
- Can't grow root
crops
- Can't grow bulbs
usually
- difficult root
support setup - usually means a small basket with balls, which
eliminates direct seed sowing
- plants have little
anchor against wind
- root zone can
become over heated or cold quickly. Avoid very hot sun or very cold
climates unless heating/cooling put into designs. Note that its
still easier than NFT to adjust temperature.
- Startup cost can be
higher (depending on size of droplet) than some systems (Our 6 plant
kit at AUD$145 is moderately expensive for a hobbyist but
competitors set up elaborate systems over AUD$500 to achieve the
same growth rate.)
- Large root zone
depth required uses up height and puts plants higher than normal.
Is it better???
Depends on what you need. Sorry - Aeroponics exists because it suits
some situations. Very few commercial installations succeed. Israel run
these systems. Asians run a lot of Deep flow beds, where roots float on
water as many systems can't keep the root zone temperature down enough.
Australia uses a lot of (gravel / scoria / coal ash / sawdust / or
Perlite) drip systems and NFT channel systems. Americans try anything.
Europe uses a lot of Rockwool slabs and occasionally NFT. This proves
that some systems suit different environments and you should never get
into a basic assumption like one is better than another.
Scott |
Water Saving
04 Jun 2003
Does growing plants hydroponically
save water? Is it more efficient, cost effective and water smart during
droughts?
Against typical field
agriculture and horticultural techniques yes.
One test they did grow
a field of plants, and also a hydroponic system. The Hydroponic system
out performed the soil system and would have used a fair bit of water,
but produced more. Because the test was to see if it was water saving
they weighed the produce against the amount of water used. To produce
traditional crops in soil, it took 80 litres of water for 1 kg of
vegetable matter. THe Hydroponic system used 3litres per kilo of
vegetable matter. THats saving 97% in water usage. Pretty good huh!
Scott |
Silver and Hydrogen peroxide
23 May 2003
Hi Scott
Kim here from Grass Valley,CA. Retired
chemical engineer now environmental activist interested in getting into
supplying environmentally friendly agricultural products here locally in
Northern CA..
Very familiar w/hydrogen peroxide and
colloidal silver for human health....been using both for years w/great
success for ourselves, family, and friends. Your Hydroshield product
sounds awesome for plant health. What sort of levels of h2o2 and ppm
silver does your concentrate contain? Also, what dilution ratio would
you suggest as a general purpose foliar feeding spray? BTW, the combo of
h2o2 & CS used in a nebullizer is dynamite for impored health.
My first visit to your site...when
time permits, will thoroughly peruse. Actually have a green house on our
farm which is currently not in use....maybe I can get something going
Hydroponically. I really like your site and your helpful attitude. Hope
you can answer my question about the h2o2/cs use levels. Thanks so much
. All the best, Kim Ireland PS Got a brother who lives in
Mooloolaba...is that anywhere nearby? He wants me to come visit!!
Hello Nice to hear
from you. Good on you for the fight to clean up these humans messing up
this planet. We use 5.75% hydrogen peroxide and silver ions below 50
micron. Colloidal silver doesn't seem to help plants as much as the
silver ions. We dilute that at 2ml per litre in the tank for a
preventative, and dose every second day if there is a fungal infection.
Foliar sprays at 2mls per litre shouldn't harm the plants if there is
nothing to react with. The problem is if you have x amount of problem,
you need x amount of Hydroshield. What is x? Excess h2o2 can damage
tissue as there is nothing to react with, and too little has no effect.
So 2ml per litre would be fine even if there was nothing to kill. If you
had some bacteria, fungus, algae etc, more would be used and effective.
So use as much as you feel might help.
I used to use a lot of
silver and h2o2 for health, but found something better in glyconutrition
see http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/section_viewer.wm?SECTION=NUTRITIONALS&MAIN=glyconutritionals
Been amazing - cures
cancer, AIDS, Downs Syndrome, any disease whatsoever will have a
positive effect. I don't need silver and h2o2 anymore Let me know what
you wish to achieve with the greenhouse. Maybe we can design a system
that runs by itself. Mooloolaba is about an hour to and hour 20mins
away. My parents live about 15 mins away in the hills at Malaney Hope to
see you one day. Got to see this awesome country! Scott
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Soil vs. Hydroponic Tests
24 May 2003
Do you have tests of your experiments
when you compared hydroponics to normal soil growth?
Lettuce growers in
soil produce 3-5 crops per year, and in Hydroponics they produce around
10-14 crops a year.
Tomato Growers in Soil
get about 3 trusses of fruit in the same time the hydroponic grower has
5-7 trusses.
These come from
farmers and general knowledge about crops.
If you want tests, go
to the ABC of NFT and read Dr Coopers work, right down to sugar content
in fruit and stuff like that.
Scott |
Fish - Koi
9 May 2003
can Perlite if drained into a Koi pond
kill fish
Hello Fish will be
fine if nutrient level is normal. It works in the same way as salt. High
levels of salt will upset fish, low levels can be beneficial by keeping
bacteria and fin rot down. If evaporation makes the pond much stronger
fish could be sick. There is no advantage to using nutrients except to
plants grown in the pond. Algae may grow more strongly.
Perlite itself is an
abrasive mineral, and if allowed to be eaten by fish it could make them
sick or hurt them. I would recommend a strainer such as shade cloth, fly
screen mesh or similar to strain out any Perlite that comes through.
Perlite is not poisonous.
Have fun
Scott |
Hydroponic tomato
24 April 2003
Hi Scott,
Four months ago I purchase hydroponic
tomatoes from Safeway. Before we consumed all of these tomatoes my own
organic crop kicked in, leaving one uneaten tomato. This tomato is still
in the fruit bowl still not completely ripe and has a crisp stalk. We
live in north east Victoria where temperatures through summer reach 45
degrees. This tomato has withstood extreme heat and no refrigeration. My
question to you is why? Or how can a tomato stay in a holding pattern
for this length of time?
Yes, I understand your
question. What I understand about ripening should explain a few things.
We do know you need to
pick tomatoes when ripe, and the ripening process is supposed to occur
as the plant produces its last sugar content to attract animals to
spread the fruit, and/or to give its offspring something to grow from
once it has fallen. To indicate the food is at its tastiest, the plant
will give off ethylene gas to finish the ripening colour.
If picked green, most
tomatoes go red due to the beginning of the rotting process, which also
is related to ethylene gas. Hence fruit going red and soft in the bowl
may not indicate it is getting better.... could be its process of dying.
Hydroponic tomatoes
will usually not rot in the short term because the lack of soil-borne
and soil related bacterias.
The plant has longer
shelf life because of this, and most hydroponic tomatoes are sold
"vine-ripened" to ensure they are ripe and salable. Long shelf
life is natural and really how plants are supposed to work.
Some varieties of
tomatoes such as gross lisse have longer shelf life. Combined with other
aspects this may play a part.
45 degree temperature
might not affect ripening. If inside and 45 degrees, this is not unusual
for tomatoes. On a 30 degree day in the sun the tomato reaches as high
as 65 degrees internally, which is why they split if cold rain falls on
the fruit during/after a hot day. Tomatoes should NEVER be refrigerated
as it shortens their life, except that it slows bacteria, which is not
applicable in this case.
Finally, the fruit may
not be able to ripen on its own. Put a ripe banana (a fruit that has
high ethylene gas) and ensure its a supermarket one as they are
artificially gased with ethyene, next to the tomato and theoretically it
should all ripen faster.
As for Organics, I am
glad you tried some Hydroponic produce. I am a strong believer in
non-synthetic growing, and we use non-chemical, only mineral based
nutrients.
Are you using manures?
Research has now shown E-coli and other bacteria from Organic
fertilisers such as manures are being transferred into the vegetables.
Some countries are considering banning all manure based organic produce
after the political fallout following the Mad cow scares in the UK. I am
supporting Hydroponics primarily for its lack of contaminants, being 12
minerals, pure, refined from soils and seawater. Thats my advertising,
and hope you don't take it the wrong way.
Hope your interest
includes a Hydroponic System one day. Remember, some glyconutrients,
phytoestrogens, and other high tech discoveries are nutrients made in
the fruits and often break down within hours of picking (such as
mannose, a glyconutrient which assists the body in communication and
healing) and may not be present in crops grown in traditional methods.
Hydroponics is the preferred method to enhance their production, and the
need to pick the fruit/vegetable and eat it immediately is extremely
important.
Gee I can talk can't
I, sorry I tend to ramble.
Scott |
The Procedure of using hydrophonics to
grow food?
15 April 2003
Hello, from Singapore here....May I
know the procedure to grow food using the Hydrophonics Method? I need to
know it badly for my project....Thank You
Hello,
The term hydroponics
involves all the different ideas for growing when using a mineral
nutrient solution and growing containers (usually plastic).
GO to our products
pages and look at the systems there, which should help.
The
Basics of hydroponics click here.
Also
our information pages click here.
If you still have some
specific questions let me know.
Thanks
Scott |
Process Skills Review
Thursday, 27 March 2003
You want to find out if a certain
plant grows best in a hot, warm, or cool climate. What variables should
you control? What variables will you test?
Sounds like a question
from a university/school project....
First you need
identical plants in identical growing systems.
Provide more heat to one of the identical plants from a normal household
lamp, and a bowl of open water in this hot environment for humidity.
Then use a fan for cool, drier environment on the other plant.
Ensure you measure the
temp and humidty levels you have created. You could now tell how
different plants performed. If lettuce, you could measure wet and dry
weights.
Hope that helps -
Scott |
Hydroponics
Monday, 03 March 2003
Who started hydroponics, and how did
it get started?
I wasn't there. I am
not that old.
It was either the
Babylonians and/or the Aztecs.
The Babylonians who
had fabulous hanging gardens. The plants were watered by hand by slaves
who walked from the Euphrates River. A measure of soil was placed into
each of the water vessels, and thereby gave the gardens liquid
nutrition.
Aztecs lived in the
mountains and grew their food plants on rafts floating on the mountain
lakes. The lakes were full of nutrients washed down from the hills.
Modern Hydroponics
were started by scientists in the 1800's, by using liquids with
different types of minerals dissolved in it. The scientists tried to
discover what made the plants grow by adding more or less of things they
thought might be plant food.
In World War two, the
US Military tried to grow vegetables in the sand of Pacific Islands
using nutrient solutions. The concept was great, but the sand was just
too salty.
In 1970 Dr Cooper had
the job to save the greenhouse tomato industry in England. The tomatoes
were too expensive because the heating costs of greenhouses was high,
and the Spanish and Italian Tomatoes were imported into England cheaper
because there was no need for heated greenhouses in the Mediterranean
climate.
Dr Cooper designed the
channel system, where only the liquid was heated. The by product was
that the costs were down, and the yields were double. SO he saved the
greenhouse industry. His book - The ABC of NFT is still the defining
work on all modern Hydroponics, and still sits next to my bed anytime I
cannot sleep. It is highly technical and not an easy read.
Scott
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Subject: Interview Questions
Dear Mr. Andrew: Thank you for the
fast response to my last e-mail. It was very helpful for my source list.
These are the questions that I would like for you to answer.
1. Based on your experience, do you
think plants grown using hydroponics are more or less healthy than
plants grown in soil?
Much healthier. There
is no doubt that the soil plants are much poorer quality as well as
quantity See also question and answer pages on www.hydrocentre.com.au
for more information on soil vs.. Hydroponic Questions.
2. Why do you think this is?
The majority of a
plants ability to produce nutrition is that the nutrients must be
available, at exactly the right time, right quantity and with a maximum
solubility level (minerals at correct pH and soluble form) The
contaminants absorbed in soil affect health quality. Hydroponics
consists of around 16 minerals from soil in dissolved form. It is soil
without the solubility or availability issues. Vitamin C is a good
example. Nitrogen uptake is critical to formation of this vitamin.
Nitrogen is available in ammonium form and nitrate form. Ammonium needs
to break down from nitrates because that is the form the plants can take
up. The ammonium needs bacteria to break down, as well as a suitable pH
and temperature, and is carried by water flowing through the soil, so
many things have to happen for the nitrogen in soil to get to the plant
and as such most of the time, Vitamin C is low in soil plants. As all
the nutrient is designed as the most soluble component in Hydroponics
(nitrogen only in nitrate form), at the correct pH and quantity, Vitamin
C is higher is hydroponically grown plants. It is accepted worldwide by
any scientist that Hydroponics is the only way to ensure total nutrient
content in foods grown. More important than any of this is that food
must be picked ripe as at least 50% of the nutrition is created in the
ripening process, which is not possible from commercial techniques.
3.Which plants, if any, do not grow
well in a hydroponics system?
Never heard of
anything that doesn't grow well. Even potatoes, mushrooms, bananas,
orchids.....
4. Which plants are better suited for
hydroponics?
All
5. Do you think hydroponics takes too
much time, effort, and money, so most people should just use soil?
Time - Hydroponics is
time saving
Effort - Hydroponics
is effort saving
Ease - Hydroponics is
much simpler
Trouble - There are
less problems in Hydroponics
Money - Hydroponic
Gardening has been shown to be less expensive over a sort term, however
the actual initial cost may be higher, there are almost no ongoing costs
and produces plants much cheaper. The over cost is the same as soil
gardening and purchasing tools for ploughing weeding fertilising and
irrigating over say 6-12 months. Example; In the 1970's Hydroponics was
used in England to compete with imported tomatoes. As the greenhouses in
England had to be heated, Dr Alan Cooper developed the channel system to
keep the cost of production low, as imported tomatoes from Spain and
Italy where there were no heating costs, were made more expensive
because of the costs in production is soil. In Australia a Lettuce
farmer might produce 3-5 crops of lettuce a year, and over a 3-4 acre
area might employ 3-4 people. Their cost is around 10-20c per plant plus
labour. The Hydroponic lettuce grower might produce 10-14 crops of
lettuce per year, has a denser packed area so uses 1/4 the room, uses
less arable land so it costs less to setup, employs no-one as 1 person
can run the farm, and the cost will be 4-8cents per plant plus
non-existent labour. Also Hydroponic Lettuce gets a higher price than
soil, because of the perceived greater value, health, cleanliness, etc
by the consumer than soil crops. Hydroponics is much more profitable
because of this. These figures may vary if buying seedlings instead of
planting seeds, and so on, but the comparison would be for seed
production on site.
6. What benefits are there for using
soil?
Unless a perfect soil
can be located, there are no benefits. If one was made up, it would
still provide incomplete delivery of nutrients as the soil only
dissolves minerals for the plants, not fed directly like Hydroponics.
7. What benefits are there for using
hydroponics?
Faster, healthier,
nutritious, cleaner, less pesticide, less fungicide, no weeding, less
bending, less labor, less knowledge required, cheaper to run, works
anywhere, can make use of land close to cities and allow close to market
growing, less area required, and more. Soil diseases are almost
eliminated, as well as viruses and harmful bacteria.
8. Do you think people in parts of the
world with poor soil could be taught hydroponics so that they can earn
money growing crops?
Many parts of the
world do not have access to refined mineral. That would introduce
expensive importation of nutrients, eliminating benefits. This may make
some poorer nations unsuitable to Hydroponic growing.
9. Do you think hydroponics is a trend
that is growing, shrinking, or staying about the same?
Huge growth in the
industry worldwide. Lack of Government support is the main failure. All
Schools in Australia are required to teach Hydroponics, and do so VERY
BADLY. (not teachers fault either....)
10. What role do you think hydroponics
will play in the future of this world?
Hydroponics will be
the only method used in 50-60 years, as Organics is likely to be banned
for health risks, and the rate of soil degradation is increasing. As
population increases, Hydroponics will be the only way to keep pace with
food demands.
11. Is there anything else that you
would like to add?
Use the Questions I
have answered on the Question and Answer page on www.hydrocentre.com.au
to provide other angles to your research.
*For my experiment I am growing
lettuce. I have not transplanted half of my plants in soil and the other
half into the hydroponics system yet because the seedlings look very
small and flimsy. How will I know when they are strong enough?
Minimum 2-3 sets of
leaves. More is better. To plant into hydroponics you should wash any
soil off. TO ensure you have a correct experiment wash the soil of the
soil test too, as transplant shock from the roots being disturbed can
slow plants. If only washed from the hydroponics group the soil plants
would not have this transplant shock, and would give incorrect test
results overall.
Scott
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health/safety issues
Saturday, 15 February 2003
I was wondering about the
health/safety of consuming plants grown with the type of fertilizers
used in hydroponics. And are other chemicals such as growth hormones etc
used?
Ah yes. The old what
is a chemical situation. Yes we sell mineral nutrients, and some brands
have organic additives. Growth hormones if synthetic should not be in
your diet. Organic hormones such as phytoestrogens are produced by
plants and are required to be in your diet to assist you in your own
hormonal balance. If plant extracts are used, they usually make a huge
song and dance about what they've done, like seaweed or molasses, or
beeswax, or alfalfa sprout juice, that sort of thing.
I grow veggies at home
using my black and white formula, which is just the minerals, with some
humic acid to provide an organic catalyst to aid boron take-up. You can
get the 1kg powder packs which are additive free, and are just minerals
refined from the soil, no synthetics.
On a sidebar - I am an
anti-chemical crusader, as well as anti-organics (mainly anti-bacteria
containing manure fertilisers).
75,000 synthetic
chemicals have been added to our lives since 1940's and only 7% have
been tested for toxicity. Health Organizations say that 100% of people
tested around the globe test positive to 100% of the toxins they can
test for. There are no fish left without traces of chemical pollutants.
Even the snow, ice, penguins and fish at the Arctic is contaminated, far
from industrial and agricultural chemicals. There is now a green layer
under the ice that won't freeze made up mostly of farm pesticides. You
cannot hide from the chemicals in our world because the water on this
planet keeps recycling, diluting and distributing the contaminants.
Simple things such as almost every water supply has pharmaceutical drugs
at a detectable level in them, leads me to believe that the symptoms
people have can often be just side effects of mixing drugs together in
small amounts. Its frightening. Birth rates are falling worldwide in
animals and humans. The female to male ratio is now very upset, with
males becoming much less predominant in numbers to females.
So eat lots of fresh veggies.
You need antioxidants free radical scavengers etc to attack toxins. You
will need to eat 10-14 serves of veggies per day, or 30-40 serves if
they are not raw. If you can't graze like a cow, then use dietary
supplements. If any readers are interested in what the correct dietary
supplements are you can contact me direct.
Scott
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Wednesday, 05 February 2003
10:50 PM
How does growing plants hydroponically
effect the environment? Discuss the amount of land used in hydroponics
vs. traditional dirt farming. ? Discuss the amount of water used in
hydroponics vs. traditional dirt farming. ? Discuss the amount of
fertilizers used in hydroponics vs. traditional dirt farming. ? Discuss
the amount of pesticides and insecticides used in hydroponics vs.
traditional dirt farming.
Scott responds...
Very good questions - you sound like a
school project....lol.
Environmentally Hydroponics has the
potential to have very minimal impact, but farmers usually stuff up the
ecology because of the cost and the effort required to be responsible
with this planet. For example it is cheaper to set up a system that
allows nutrients to run off than to recycle them. As this will be
illegal shortly it is not a relevant issue, but it is a good example
that good practices need to be legislated to ensure 100% participation
and that the costs will be passed on to consumers as an industry.
Farmers often complain that if they do the right thing and others do
not, they will bear higher costs that the non-conformists, and this will
not be reflected in the market price and their costs cannot be
recovered. Environment and Economics can work, if governments have the
courage to set up laws that help the environment and have the economic
cost recovered within the community.
Land issues - you can use land that is
not agricultural, such as old industrial land, areas with soil
infertility or toxicity, and leave more arable land to go back to its
natural state to support wildlife etc. On an economic level, this land
is often cheaper than agricultural land, and often closer to markets.
As production is higher and practices
such as weeding, ploughing etc reduced and in Hydroponics, the land is
used more effectively. (given same space a lettuce farmer might get 3-5
crops in soil vs. 10-14 in hydroponics, thus using about 1/2 the area or
less to produce the same amount of produce.
Water use is minimised. A test once
produced 1kg of produce with 3 litres of water. The same test in soil
was 80 litres due to continual drainage and run off, soil evaporation
and the slowness of crops in soil requiring long term irrigation.
Fertiliser run off is minimised because where soil run off has varying
levels of fertiliser present, the Hydroponic nutrient is around
500-1500ppm or 99.5% to 98.5% water!!!! This is below soil output. To
ensure total ecological control, any time a nutrient tank needs to be
refreshed, the nutrients can be pumped to irrigate the farmers normal
lawns or gardens or collected for irrigating golf courses etc, to have
0% impact, as at that strength, the nutrition is absorbed by the gardens
if applied without any runoff. This also reduces the need for soil
fertilisation where the nutrients are applied. Some farmers use a
secondary crop field that has a tomato or tough crop in soil which
receives a small amount of nutrients regularly. The crop is a bonus from
extra income, and eliminates run off for the ecology.
Pesticides should be only applied to keep
plant damage from damaging yields. Since Hydroponic Plants grow so fast,
losing a leaf or two usually has no result as the plant has grown 3 more
during the period a leaf gets eaten. Because most systems are either
plastic lined or off the ground, most crawling and soil born pests are
not applicable to Hydroponics. Wind break can be used to avoid flying
insects flying onto the crop. Crawling insects can also be repelled by
treating the surrounds of the system, not the plants themselves.
Hydroponics provides more alternatives to soil in the area of
pesticides.
Scott
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soil or hydrophonics
(hydroponics)
Wednesday, 29 January 2003
Which is easier and which gives you
the greatest yield on average ? I am currently using soil
From Scott
There is no doubt Hydroponics is easier
than soil, and the yields and speed is much better. There are many
techniques which will yield differently that other hydroponic techniques
as well.
In Soil a Lettuce grower would expect 3-5
crops a year, but in Hydroponics a farmer gets 10-14 crops a year. There
is much less effort. The Hydroponic solution makes the plants grow at
their optimum rate, not artificially accelerated as some may think. The
speed and yield is high because the plant does not wait for soil to give
up its minerals, if they are there at all. The reason that the whole
thing is easier is its all in the bottle. No need to guess what a plant
needs. When soil goes wrong, there are thousands of possible reasons, in
Hydroponics it all comes down to less than 10 and they are basic like is
there nutrient, is there light. In soil it is, are there bugs in the
soil I can't see, is that an such and such deficiency or such and such
toxicity locking up such and such blah blah, too hard!!! Give me a
simple thing like Hydroponics in Perlite, of Expanded Clay,..., No need
to be a rocket scientist or worse - A horticulturalist.
If anyone wants a really big reply to
this the question of questions either:
- email me and I'll do it up for you!
- get some Perlite and some dirt and
race them against each other!
.....either way you will be able to see
the differences quickly.
Scott

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Who invented Hydroponics?
Wednesday, 29 January 2003
The Hanging Gardens of Babylon were
apparently soil mixed in vessels with water, which was lifted by slaves
and poured into plumbing that ran through the gardens.
Aztecs planted plants on rafts and set
them out on the lakes which were high in minerals washed down from the
mountains.
In the 1800 scientists used soil and
water to test how plants worked in England.
In 2nd World War the US Army tried to
grow vegetables in the sand of Pacific Islands to supplement supply.
Unfortunately the Salinity of the sands made the project fail.
In 1970's the English greenhouse tomato
industry was under threat from cheaper European tomatoes, grown in Spain
and Italy where the weather is warmer than England and didn't have the
expense of heating the greenhouses. The modern Hydroponic Industry was
invented by Dr Cooper ("The ABC of NFT") who invented a warm
nutrient solution running down channels, and the roots warmed by
continuous liquid, which was cheaper. The byproduct was that plants
increased their yields significantly, and caused the recovery of this
industry.
Sidebar: I am still of the opinion
that channel (NFT) systems do not suit a warm climate as the nutrient
gets too warm, which depletes the available oxygen, and causes root
rots, although given the correct conditions, results can be achieved.
Hope that indicates where Hydroponics
came from.
Scott

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Why Hydroponics?
Friday, 24 January 2003
How is Hydroponics better than
traditional growing methods
Scott responds;
Several reasons.
- Weeding reduced or eliminated
- can work at bench height eliminating
bending
- disease is highly unlikely
- nutrition simple to control
- healthier plants through more
oxygenated growing root environment
- faster (lettuce in soil 3-5
crops/year; Hydroponics 10-14 crops a year) and therefore can
produce in small areas what would take a much larger traditional
area to grow.
- planting can be close together as
plants don't compete for nutrition
- Anyone can grow Hydroponically with
little ability required
- Can be grown in areas which are arid
(bad soils) or islands, in isolated communities where fresh produce
is unavailable, non-farmable locations such as NASA's space
missions, or rooftops or any space available
- cleaner produce - no e-coli and
bacteria from animal manures (lets face it Organics is likely to
take a life one day if it hasn't already as the plants absorb the
bacteria)
- increased pest resistance
- water usage reduced (3litres for same
amount of produce compared to 80 litres traditional method)
- It annoys horticulturalists like my
family, who took 4 years to learn soil and still have no control,
and I can explain Hydroponics in 10 minutes.
- It has little to no environmental
impact when used properly.
- It conserves fertilizer/mineral
reserves in the earth
- NASA, CSIRO, scientific bodies around
the globe use it to produce crops in laboratories because it is the
easiest method to get top results that are reproducible time after
time.
- Lots of reasons relating to nutrient
uptake and soil rotation, and no ground water contamination and
support systems, and so on.....
- It is REALLY COOL!
One Day I'll write a 30 page essay on it,
but hope this will do till then. Any of the above needs elaborating, let
me know with a response or a personal email scott@hydrocentre.com.au
Scott

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System diagrams for school
Thursday, 23 January 2003
I am working on a science project and
need a diagram of how hydroponics work. Can you e-mail me one or lead me
to a web site that has one?
You should find some pictures on this
site, but you will notice that there are so many different systems
available that are all called Hydroponic. email me at scott@hydrocentre.com.au
with some more information on what your project requirements are and I
might have something from my bag of tricks.
Scott

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First time grower choosing systems
5th November 2002
Hi there.
The other day I went down to your shop and had a look around and
liked what I saw.
I am deciding to buy one of your hydro kits but because I'm a first time
grower I am not sure which one to buy. I don't have that much money
right now so I am only getting the basics. These are the systems I was
looking at buying;
the satellite System with the 6 cell and all the equipment for
$175
the automatic system with the smart valve and the 6 pots and 3
trays for $250
to start off I'm growing by using the sun but maybe in 1month I'
ll be getting some lights and probably move the plants into my room or
closet which of the 3 systems do u recon is the best for me?????
Response by Scott
Great to hear. No problem starting off on a budget. Starting
somewhere is a good idea.
> the satellite System with the 6 cell and all the equipment for
$175
Good, easy beginner system, moderate cost.
> the automatic system with the smart valve and the 6 pots and 3
trays for $250
Good system, very easy, moderate cost.
> the aeroponics system kit for $145
Advanced system, fairly easy, can confuse first time growers a little
bit. Generally the increase in performance keeps people interested who
like to really be involved with their growing.
Try this also:
6x 300mm Pots, with Saucers, Nutrients, Perlite, Instructions, for
$100
You water with nutrient until Perlite is moist, and then add nutrient
to the saucers until full. When Perlite and Saucers are dry, do this
again. Very Easy. More inexpensive, if that helps. Might get you into
the lights and so on earlier...
Impossible to say which is easiest or suits you best. All systems
suit different people, and that is why they were invented by someone at
some time, and why there is so many systems.
The System should suit how you want to take care of it.
The automatic system is fill and forget. Check tank every week.
Easy
Satellite system, refill tank twice a week with water, dump tank
every 7-10 days. More performance, by 25-50%
Aeroponics, check daily, adjust timing, refill with water, dump tank
every 7 days.
Perlite in Pots, check every 2 or 3 days, water with nutrient most
times, flush pots with plain water each month.
Does this help? If not let me know
Unfortunately, it really is a decision on what you feel is best for
YOU.
You have to take care of it. You get the rewards too!!!!!
Happy Growing
Scott
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| Automatic systems August 28 2002
Can a System be totally automatic? If I left it it
would work and be able to work itself? Can I grow and stay organic?
Thanks
Response to Automatic systems by scott [moderator]
You can make a system so automatic you can leave
the system alone. A simple float valve like an autopot valve can be used
to provide enough nutrient from a gravity tank. The tank can be huge, or
you can use a dosing system to refill the tank with a mix of water from
your tap and nutrient in a bottle. see automatic systems at
http://www.hydrocentre.com.au
Organic based nutrients are very common. Mineral
based nutrients (i.e.no synthetics) are very common. Pure organics
becomes difficult to keep the biological activity balanced. I tend to
steer clear of organics, as any fecal matter in organics could contain
E-coli and other nasties; which have now been proven will be absorbed by
vegetables. Hydroponics with a mineral nutrient and/or organic blended
nutrients (using clean organic matter) will tend to be the safest
growing method, and will result in the highest vitamin and nutritional
content. Of course, growing at home is the only sure way to ensure no
pesticides are used. Give me a yell if that needs further clarification
Scott
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| How would you grow carrots? July 25
2002 at 10:58 AM john
I wanted to grow carrots and wanted to know if
they can be done hydoponicilly? Thank You Carrots grow in 20cm + depth
August 2 2002 at 4:25 PM Scott Scott
Response to How would you grow carrots?
Carrots need 20cm or more in depth of a moist
medium like Perlite. I have grown them in Soil and Perlite in Crates
that were about a foot tall so about 30cm in depth. The perlite was wet
down with nutrient when nearly dry. The soil similarly. The soil ones
were small and pitiful by the time I had eaten all the Perlite grown
Carrots, and they weren't dirty, but almost sweet, they tasted really
nice. Worth doing I think! I am growing Pototoes in a similar system,
and Onions and root crops would grow well in that system. Keep smiling
and growing!
Scott
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| Fish October 26 2000 at 10:55 AM
motorcycle man
Can you put fish in a nutrient tank?
fish in tanks October 30 2000 at 9:43 AM scott
scott
Response to Fish
Yes you can put fish in tanks keep an eye on
temperature, pH of the nutrients, and only use freshwater fish.
Be careful of any fish treatments you use, and
change tanks regularly. Just don't toss the fish out with the nutrients
- lol
More info if you need it, in Practical Hydroponics
- come and see me if you need it
Scott
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